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28. "RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul..."
02-20-04, 23:45z 

Hi Melo:

> Problem solved. Here is the key phrase:
>
> >This procedure is available daily from 0830 to 1230 local,
> >weather
> >permitting. When staffing permits, the hours of operation
> >will be
> >increased.
>
> That day we were flying in the late afternoon so the Mini-route
> was already closed for the day. The previous SFRA rules were
> in effect for the non Mini-route times, I guess.
>
> I saw in the more recent Mini-route message that you posted,
> the hours of operation were increased to 24 hrs a day conditions
> permitting. So it was a transition phase between the two procedures.

I think there's a bit of confusion here (easy to do). I contacted LAX Tower Support Specialist earlier to verify my information. We'll get back into this topic some more when we start discussing the flight, but the quick synopsis is SFRA disappeared after 9/11. It came back as the current LAX Special Air Traffic Rules Area at some unknown point (it's not Steve's airspace and I'm still searching for when). The mini-route was created in June 2002 and both (SATRA and mini-route) exist today. I seem to recall that the mini-route (before they called it as such) was the only way to VFR transition LAX Class B at one time, but can't recall when it was. Finally, there current LAX TAC is erroneously missing the SATRA freq (I posted a note about it in the Safety Forum).

Hope this helps!

Ben


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  Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Multipl...    RobertVA      02-08-04       
     RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   vgbaron[Sysop]      02-08-04      1   
        RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   RobertVA[Lead]      02-09-04      3   
             RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   vgbaron[Sysop]      02-10-04      4   
                  RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   RobertVA[Lead]      02-10-04      5   
                       RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-10-04      6   
                       RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   vgbaron[Sysop]      02-11-04      7   
                            RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   tb[Lead]      02-11-04      8   
                                 RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   RobertVA[Lead]      02-13-04      17   
                       RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   PL965Melo[Crew]      02-12-04      9   
                            RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   RobertVA[Lead]      02-12-04      10   
                                 RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-12-04      11   
                                      RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-12-04      12   
                                           RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   PL965Melo[Crew]      02-13-04      15   
                                                RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-13-04      18   
                                                     RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   PL965Melo[Crew]      02-15-04      22   
                                                          RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-15-04      24   
                                                               RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   PL965Melo[Crew]      02-19-04      26   
                                                                    RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...    Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-20-04      28   
                                           RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   RobertVA[Lead]      02-13-04      16   
                                                RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-13-04      19   
                                 RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   PL965Melo[Crew]      02-13-04      14   
                                      RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-13-04      20   
                                           RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   PL965Melo[Crew]      02-15-04      23   
                                                RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      02-15-04      25   
                                                     RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   PL965Melo[Crew]      02-19-04      27   
     RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   andor[Lead]      02-09-04      2   
     RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   tb[Lead]      02-13-04      13   
     RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   andor[Lead]      02-14-04      21   
        RE: Proposed Route Feb 15 0300z Mul...   DylanK[Crew]      02-24-04      29   

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