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vgbaron Certificates/Ratings/Crew Stations: "Is this still done?" 11-21-02, 17:42z  When I was a kid, I went to an airshow and saw a maneuver that I thought was spectacular and wondered if it's still being done. If memory serves, it was called a Vertical Reversement. The pilot rolled 90 degrees to a knife edge and applied hard bottom rudder. The tail would describe an 180 degree downward arc, the pilot would roll level effectively doing a 180 degree change of direction in a *very* small space. Is something like this still done and what is it called? BTW, for those that missed it, the chat with Patty Wagstaff, Dale Snodgrass & Mike Mancuso was a lot of fun! Look forward to the next one! Thanx, Vic Baron Of all the things I've lost - I miss my mind the most -= VPC OffLine Reader 2.1 =- Registered to: Vic Baron -OLR.PL v1.80- Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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Subject      Author      Message Date     ID      RE: Is this still done? DHamblin 11-21-02 1    RE: Is this still done? vgbaron 11-21-02 2   RE: Is this still done? 152Driver 02-17-09 3

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DHamblin Certificates/Ratings/Crew Stations: 1. "RE: Is this still done?" 11-21-02, 19:18z  I haven't seen that manuever done exactly that way (I am understanding that the rudder pitches the nose down and around in knife edge). In a way it sounds like a "split-S" but it (split-S) isn't done in knife edge, the pilot rolls inverted and pulls through to level. I have seen Patty do a manuever I like where she pulls up in a quarter loop. At the 90 degree point she rolls 90 degrees to knife edge and then uses the rudder to more or less do a wing-over to a 45 degree downline, where she rolls level. Not sure why but I like to watch that one. Dave Hamblin (formerly DaveH on old site!) Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vgbaron Certificates/Ratings/Crew Stations: 2. "RE: Is this still done?" 11-21-02, 20:00z  Hi Dave - > I haven't seen that manuever done exactly that way (I am understanding > that the rudder pitches the nose down and around in knife edge). In a > way it sounds like a "split-S" but it (split-S) isn't done in knife > edge, the pilot rolls inverted and pulls through to level. In this case the nose pitches up and over the knife edge - the tail describes a lower semicircle. > > I have seen Patty do a manuever I like where she pulls up in a quarter > loop. At the 90 degree point she rolls 90 degrees to knife edge and then > uses the rudder to more or less do a wing-over to a 45 degree downline, > where she rolls level. > > Not sure why but I like to watch that one. I like to watch just about anything that Patty does ( Sorry, Dale!) Vic Of all the things I've lost - I miss my mind the most -= VPC OffLine Reader 2.1 =- Registered to: Vic Baron -OLR.PL v1.80- Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

152Driver Certificates/Ratings/Crew Stations: 3. "RE: Is this still done?" 02-17-09, 09:06z  Can you believe that the technique for a Vertical Reversement is clearly outlined in, of all things, a Cessna 152 Aerobats POH? I know this because I was flicking through one the other day trying to work out what the hell one was...it appears on the "approved manouevers" placard in the 152s I fly so I decided to look it up! Anyway, from memory, the Vertical Reversement is basically a half snap roll initiated during a steep turn. Ie roll and perform a steep turn to the left, pull hard/stomp rudder, and the aircraft will start to snap roll. Recover from the snap and continue turning in the opposite direction. I've snap-rolled 152s plenty of times so am keen to try one... Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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