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9. "RE: CG manipulation"
05-27-02, 08:21z 

Greetings avbug:

First off, thanks so much for the very detailed insights about carb ice and CG manipulation. I'm sure the others feel the same as I do--well done!

> Weight shift for trim and control is one of the most origional and
> basic forms of aircraft control. In a hang glider, for example, body
> english-weight shift is everything.

That's right. Thanks for the reminder. I tend to use body english when I sit in the back seat of an airplane watching another pilot making a landing. :)
I doubt my weight shifting/body english actually does anything, but that doesn't stop me from subconsciously doing the same when I go bowling either! :)


> During flight test operations to explore the CG envelope and attendant
> aircraft performance, very often a sliding weight is used to vary the
> CG. This weight is usually run on a cable and rod arrangement or with a
> chain and sprocket, in order to explore a variety of CG applications
> during one flight. The CG is precalculated, and can be set as required
> at intervals to conduct the test.

This is the kind of mechanism I was thinking of at first, but it may be too elaborate (complexity and weight-wise) for aerobatic application we envision.


> Some aircraft trim systems have used weight shift arrangements using a
> weight in the floor or in a track somewhere in the aircraft.

I never knew that. Can you give us an example of an aircraft that does/did use this?


> Remember that when having a discussion of spins, the aft CG isn't what
> causes a spin. A spin results following a stall; the aircraft must be
> stalled first. Many other factors are involved in spin recovery,
> including aircraft design, power application, control input, etc.

Rgr. I should have explained that my example of a flat spin and rearward CG worst case scenario was to emphasize that in that situation a rearward CG would reduce elevator effectiveness (due to the shorter arm between the CG and elevator) and may make recovery from that maneuver impossible--hense requiring a foolproof weight ejection system in that situation.

Thanks again!

Ben

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  Subject      Author      Message Date     ID   
  CG manipulation    Ben Chiu      05-20-02       
     RE: CG manipulation   DHamblin[Sysop]      05-20-02      1   
        RE: CG manipulation   Ben Chiu[Admin]      05-20-02      2   
             RE: CG manipulation   vgbaron[Sysop]      05-20-02      3   
                  RE: CG manipulation   Mike_Greenwood[Admin]      05-21-02      4   
                  RE: CG manipulation   Ben Chiu[Admin]      05-21-02      5   
                       RE: CG manipulation   vgbaron[Sysop]      05-21-02      6   
                            RE: CG manipulation   ChipB727[Sysop]      05-21-02      7   
     RE: CG manipulation   avbug[Guest]      05-26-02      8   
        RE: CG manipulation    Ben Chiu[Admin]      05-27-02      9   

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