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3. "RE: Oshkosh 2003...."
08-07-03, 17:52z 

Greetings Dave:

> Crowds seemed good (but not "too" crowded).

Has it been like that before, or has there been times it's been too crowded or not crowded? I'm trying to gauge interest in aviation by crowd sizes attending these events.


> I didn't fly the simulator
> but my son's did. Michael, the oldest did well until he got it rolled a
> bit too far (it won't recover if you get to much bank). He is also the
> smallest of my two sons and had to let go of the elevator to get his
> body slid over to stop the roll and stalled.

Doh! But it sounds like he was on top of the roll, literally! :)


> Kevin (who is also taller etc) flew it about 3-5 minutes or so, better
> than most childern or adults. Since I had read about the 1903's (lack
> of) flying quality I told both to stay low, avoid much of any turns and
> be real soft on the elevator.

Sounds like good advice, and probably pretty close to the pilot briefings/aircraft checkouts given to the first pilots flying the real one! :)

I've been flying the Wright Flyer in the latest version of Flight Simulator, although I don't believe they can or have claimed the flight model as being "accurate," their roll modeling (longitudinal axis) displays negative static stability (it continues to roll once initiated), which I would think coincides with the anhedral wing design.

I wonder if the sensitive elevator could be attributed to a rearward C.G. (although in this case it may be a forward C.G. since the elevator is in the front of the airplane)? I've read the articles about the WF in Flying, AOPA Pilot, etc. and I find it very interesting how the Brothers did things and try to imagine what I would have done in their position.


> I am building a 1/5 scale T-34 Mentor and found a nice subject to
> pattern it after (as you can imagine I had a wide range of subjects to
> choose from).

I bet! Please send us a picture when you have it finished. I'm always in awe of the some of folks that bring scale aircraft of Patty's Extra to airs hows to have it photographed alongside the real one and Patty. Definitely works of love, and in some cases, it looks like works of obsession! :)


> One thing that always amazes me is how many directions the "stars" like
> Patty are being pulled in all the time (unlike normal airshows, there
> about everyone recognizes her when out and about) yet they are always
> gracious and then pull it all together for the show. The day I got to
> help as we were waiting for her turn to fly there was a steady stream of
> photographers, videographers, and people walking up to her. This didn't
> stop till the canopy was shut and she taxied off. She graciously
> accomodated all.

I guess that's what separates the pros from the rest of 'em.


> At least I can walk about without being hounded.

LOL! And the rest of us. :)


> You need to try and make it at least once.

It's on my to-do list.


> My CFI friend/partner and our
> A&P partner flew the C150 up this year; if all goes well it will be my
> turn to fly it up next year (nope, haven't flown in before; just drove).
>
> We have to work out the logistics of getting my wife and kids up though.
> I suggested we pool resources and rent a Cessna Caravan :-).

There ya go! :)

Ben


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  Subject      Author      Message Date     ID   
  Oshkosh 2003....    DHamblin      08-04-03       
     RE: Oshkosh 2003....   Ben_Chiu[Admin]      08-05-03      1   
        RE: Oshkosh 2003....   DHamblin[Sysop]      08-06-03      2   
             RE: Oshkosh 2003....    Ben_Chiu[Admin]      08-07-03      3   
     RE: Oshkosh 2003....   Patty_Wagstaff[Sysop]      08-08-03      4   
        RE: Oshkosh 2003....   petrajoyce[Guest]      08-11-03      5   
             RE: Oshkosh 2003....   DHamblin[Sysop]      08-11-03      6   
        RE: Oshkosh 2003....   DHamblin[Sysop]      08-11-03      7   

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